The TV comedy premise of two divorced women moving in together and re-starting their lives has found new life on Netflix: the streamer has two such shows, Grace & Frankie and Raven's Home. But the origin of this concept was Kate & Allie, a popular and very NYC-based show from the 1980s (on ... CBS!), that's largely forgotten today.
Kate and Allie are recently divorced middle-aged ladies with three children between them. They have moved into a Greenwich Village apartment, dealing with the challenges of single-parenting together, making up an impromtu family. While the show was "edgy" for '80s TV (Divorce! No men! Set in NYC!) it had your old-school basic sitcom format -- something would happen, hilarity and confusion would ensue, a resolution would be found, and important life lessons would be learned. It was unrelentingly wholesome, promoting "traditional family values."
And all on videotape!
Seinfeld this was not (in fact, it went off the air just a few weeks before that other classic NYC sitcom would premiere) but it was a smart, occasionally funny, and very white show, an artifact of its era. Kate was played by Susan Saint James (a popular actress from the 1970s show McMillan & Wife) and Allie was Jane Curtin (a few years after her run in the original cast of Saturday Night Live).Their kids were played by, among others, Alison Smith and Ari Meyers who went to mildly successful careers afterwards.
A couple of interesting things about this show.
First, since it was about two women living together, and on TV during the Reagan era, CBS apparently told the producers to make it very, very clear that Kate and Allie were not lesbians. In fact, they tried to get each episode to end with them withdrawing into seperate bedrooms. The non-romantic nature of their relationship was hammered home a lot.
Second, Kate & Allie was a rare thing for the 1980s -- a show set and made in NYC (the only other sitcom shot here then was The Cosby Show). One thing that distinguished it from most sitcoms of its time was that each episode had a "cold open" where Kate and Allie (or their kids) would be filmed on the streets of NYC, with no audience or laugh track obviously, making an observation about the city and its people. It firmly established the show as rooted here and gave it a real city-vibe. As a kid who lived in NYC then, it was nice to see a show that took pride in being set here, unlike most shows that were set in anonymous suburbs in middle America.
I don't know if Kate & Allie is streaming anywhere but you can find lots of episodes of it on YouTube. Enjoy!
Stephen Colbert signed off The Late Show last night and now, after 33 years, one of the big 11:30 PM talk shows is gone. I attended a taping of the show back in 2018 and blogged about it at the time.
It's sad to think that all of the talent and energy I saw that day is now gone. Colbert and this show deserved better but the monsters who now run CBS decided, in the most cowardly way possible, to censor him for political reasons.
So it goes.
The Late Show ran for all 33 years from The Ed Sullivan Theater on Broadway and 53rd Street. The theater was, in many ways, the first sign of the theater district and the entire Times Square area. When you came upon it you it was like the theater was welcoming you to the cultural heart of NYC -- and America.
I didn't spend a lot of time in the theater district as a kid but I remember that when I was there I would pass The Ed Sullivan Theater which, at the time, had a big black and white marquee. It would announce various taping for various shows -- including the 1980s sitcom Kate & Allie. Often the theater would lie empty and it looked a little run down. It just seemed to sit there -- it's amazing history as the place where Ed Sullivan changed the culture with the Beatles and numerous other artists long in the past.
Then, in 1993, it found its second life.
David Letterman started The Late Show that year and it once again became a massive cultural hub, basically the nerve center for NYC cultural hub. I was in high school at the time and it was really exciting! The theater screamed "New York!" to the rest of America -- and the rest of America loved it.
And now it's all over.
The Ed Sullivan Theater is once again just sitting there empty. It's gone dark. So far there are apparently now plans to use it for anything again. That would be tragic. It's a beautiful space in the heart of Manhattan and it let it wither would be criminals. But since our country is being run and owned by criminals, I don't hold out hope.
Light a candle for the Ed Sullivan Theater. It needs the love.
If you ever saw the movie The Player, you learn how movies get made -- a writer or director or producer or someone goes to a studio executive and "pitches," saying something like, "So here's the idea: we team a daredevil cop who doesn't play by the rules with a rookie or a babe or a chimp" (okay, so I stole this line from a Sonic TV commercial but you get the idea).
Much is the same for TV shows: "Okay, so six friends in New York who hang out in an apartment and a coffee shop and joke about their love lives" -- such pitches are what make TV history.
At some point in the mid-1980s, a writer named Michael Jacobs pitched a show to NBC called My Two Dads and I'd love to imagine he told Brandon Tartikoff and Warren Littlefield (the guys who ran NBC at the time), "Okay, so two guys who live in New York banged the same chick back in the 1970s, find out that she died and that she has a teenage daughter and that either of them might be the father, so -- work with me here! -- they decide to raise her together because, you know, that's believable."
But that's exactly the premise for this late '80 sitcom that starred a post-Diner, pre-Mad About You Paul Reiser, some guy named Greg Evigan, and a girl named Staci Keanan who went onto greatness in the 1990s sitcom Step By Step. Each episode presented the two VERY NOT GAY men living together in a stylish NYC loft with lots of neon lights on the wall as they negotiate taking care of this wonderful young lady who has completed disrupted their previously swinging single lives -- and learning important life lessons about along the way.
Much like Friends, My Two Dads existed in an NYC fantasy land of huge apartments and jobs requiring little work. Unlike other NYC series, the city existed in the background, making it an almost generic setting. But I remember when I occasionally saw this show as a kid that it was the rare show (besides Kate & Allie, about two other VERY NOT GAY people, in that case women living together) set in NYC.
What makes watching this show interesting is that, while it's painfully dated, it's a perfect time capsule from the 1980s: a sitcom about how great family is, even when that family consists of two men as parents but of course they are VERY NOT GAY (hard to believe but this show ran nearly 30 years before gay marriage was legalized and the idea of two non-straight men raising a family was unthinkable) plus lots of neon, pastels, and music with saxaphones.
Believe it or not, as absurd as the premise for this show was, it actually ran for three seasons (from 1987-1990) during NBC's 1980s glory days of Cheers, The Cosby Show, Family Ties, Night Court, and LA Law. It was one of those shows that was a minor hit and, after it was cancelled, completely and totally forgotten about (until now). Today if you pitched a show like this you'd get laughed out of the room but it was perfectly in tunes with its conservative times.
A few years ago I heard Paul Reiser on a podcast talking about how he came to be on My Two Dads. In the 1980s, Reiser had a big stand-up comedy career and was also acting in big movies like Beverly Hills Cop and Aliens. His agent told him that NBC wanted him to do this pilot but that it was so silly that it would never get picked up and he'd get a quick and easy pay day. Instead ... he found himself stuck on a show he didn't really like for three years but, he said, it made him realize that he'd like to create his own show and that eventually became Mad About You (a vastly superior and much beloved 1990s classic).
If you're interested in this very odd piece of 1980's TV and NYC nostalgia, you can find a lot of full episodes on YouTube or watch the pilot here:
